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Monday, 31 August 2020
Martin Lewis, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform." A Whitewash Report by The Ombudsmans61percent campaign. Pt 6: Martin Lewis (5)
Also on page 2 of your report we're told that only 1 ombudsman scheme was seen by consumers as being, "fair."
Nowhere in this report does it attempt to explain this unfairness.
Why not?
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign is seeking a public inquiry into OS:Property.
Martin Lewis, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform." A Whitewash Report. By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. Pt 6: Martin Lewis (4)
On page 2 of your report it states:
"Only 31% said the ombudsman was neutral."
Why doesn't your report go on to explain why ombudsmen aren't neutral and why the BEIS / Ombudsman Association didn't intervene to protect consumers?
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign is seeking a public inquiry into the ombudsinjustice / abuse at Ombudsman Services:Property.
Martin Lewis, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform." A Whitewash Report. By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. Pt 6: Martin Lewis (3)
The report (Sharper Teeth etc.) also fails to list:
- Annual Reports studied
- Customer Satisfaction Reports Studied
- Company Minutes studied
- Whether OFT Criteria (in the case of OS:P) were complied with or not.
(They weren't - but that isn't in your report/whitewash).
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign is seeking a public inquiry into the ombudsinjustice/abuse at Ombudsman Services:Property.
Martin Lewis, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform." A Whitewas Report. By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. Pt 6: Martin Lewis (2)
Martin, your report, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform" fails to name ANY of the those you had, "off the record" discussions with.
Time to put the record straight.
Re-write your report and name names especially those at Ombudsman Services.
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign: campaigning for justice for the victims of ombudsinjustice and ombudsabuse.
Martin Lewis, "Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform." A Whitewash Report. By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. Pt 6: Martin Lewis (1)
Martin you, "fact-checked" the maladministration at Ombudsman Services for your whitewash report: Sharper Teeth etc.
Would you say the CEO was, "a fit and proper person" to head such a scandalous scheme?
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign: campaigning for justice for the victims of ombudsinjustice and ombudsabuse.
Monday, 17 August 2020
"Watching The Watchers Watch The Ombuds Watchers Watch The Ombudsmen." A Reply To - "Collective dissent and legal protests amongst users of public services ombuds." (Creutzfeldt N. + Gill C.) Social and Legal Studies by: The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. Pt 5: Academics 1.
"Watching The Watchers Watch The Ombuds Watchers Watch The Ombudsmen:" A reply to - "Collective dissent and legal protests amongst users of public services ombuds." (Creutzfeldt N, + Gill C.) Social and Legal Studies by: The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign.
Dear Friend,
The speed, fairness and independence of a nation's justice system is a measure of the health its democracy. Judging by the short reign of chaos, denial and terror at the government approved and "monitored" Ombudsman Services:Property one pillar of the justice establishment has spectacularly imploded and is now beyond repair. But where are the politicians? Where is the political will to radically overhaul a failed system of administrative justice?
If RICS the regulator and the government monitors of the government approved Ombudsman Services:Property had done the jobs they were paid to do then there would have been no need for us to write this reply. But they didn't. And so we are.
We were inspired to respond to Creutzfeldt N+Gill C's article by: Huw Beynon's, Working For Ford / Get Up Stand Up | Playing For Change | Song Around The World (13.769.897 views) / Eyal Weizman +Fazal Sheikh: "The Conflict Shoreline, Surprise and Disappointment" / that private sector ombuds were excluded from this article / a difficulty with the terms, "Against the law" and "With the law / a disagreement with the authors over some of their conclusions and continued focus on the watchers and not the watched / a need for a rigorous understanding of ombuds and how and why they operate in the way they do and an objection to being labelled a, "watcher."
"Watcher: a person who watches television or films - Cambridge English Dictionary."
Or, "Watcher: a person who closely follows or observes someone or something - Merriam-Webster Dictionary."
The second definition is slightly less demeaning. "Watchers," if our experience is anything to go by, do a great deal more than just watch. Perhaps "activists" or "protesters" would be a far more suitable word for their hours of voluntary unpaid activism and banging of heads on doors that never seem to want to open. There is no lottery funding or charitable status available for the likes of us.
The authors seem to acknowledge this on p. 33 in their section: A Collective Approach to Gaming and the Communal Dynamics of Protest. Collective "protest" being "the means through which complainants rendered helpless could regain a voice" rather than being "shut out in the cold." "Protester" or "activist" seem far more appropriate lables to be given.
The authors begin by stating, "The article argues that legal consciousness provides an appropriate theoretical lens for studying user experiences of ombuds processes and a useful framework for understanding the ways in which people make sense of experiences, construct ideas about justice and make decisions about what action to take in response to dissatisfaction." Is it not also a political consciousness? Isn't the whole process of being systematically denied justice by the state and its civil servants and politicians - political? Especially when the financial stakes are so high as they were at Ombudsman Services:Property.
We're not talking about a kettle that refused to boil.
The Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsman, Gillian Fleming was moved to write that the financial implications of a £25K award made against her fee-paying members could be crippling especially at a time of financial constraint. She forgot to mention the financially crippling effects of NOT making such an award to complainants at just such a time. They were, after all, the aggrieved party.
The link between fee-paying members who fund the "service" and ombuds' decisions and their pro-business ombudspeak could be easily followed until 2011 when DJS Research were suddenly replaced and the company minutes disappeared from it website. However, for future researchers of ombuds schemes such a line on enquiry is surely essential if academics are serious about understanding the political-economy of ombuds in rigged (or captured) market economies in the early 21st century. (2)
The approach adopted by Huw Beynon's in, "Working For Ford" was markedly different and succeeded in giving the production line workers he surveyed a sense of worth and dignity. They were able to forge a collective response something that we accept is denied to complainants. Perhaps a buddy/advocacy network needs to be established so that already stressed complainants have somebody (or body) to help through their "customer journey?"
The workers at Fords responses to the situation they'd been placed in and how they sought to assert control over a work load imposed by an assertive management are - explained.
The "ombuds" in Creutzfeldt +Gills' paper remain shadowy figures. The starring actors never set foot on the stage.
Many people who turn to these "ombuds" - a wide range of individuals all with varying skills (some with very few) - but all sharing that same ridiculous name - are often desperate and vulnerable people. Their experiences of the Byzantine / Kafkaesque / mind-numbingly idiotic processes and ombudspeople they come up against in their hours of greatest need can be - and often are -traumatic. Especially so when handed an eye-wateringly ludicrous decision for all their trouble. And no hope of appeal.
The "Final Decision." It sounds eerily like something out of Germany between the two world wars especially when The Rev Lewis Shand Smith, CEO and Chief Ombudsman kept referring to the people he was sitting in judgement on as: a stock of work. Each given a number and then summarily dispatched.
There is no in-depth analysis of what led ombuds watchers / activists / protesters to fight back. No Weberian "ideal-type" ombuds or Gold Standard as Martin Lewis (1) erroneously insists upon from which named ombus all-too regularly diverge or what led to that divergence. And which caused some to fight back.
With Huw Beynon you knew why the good guys were good and why the bad guys were bad. The workers were most certainly going to stand up for their rights. When we were promised by Jonathan May of the then OFT a "speedy" fair" and "independent" "investigation" of our complaint by Gillian Fleming the then property ombudsman At Ombudsman Services:Property that is what we expected.
When we got the opposite we too decided to stand up for our rights. How did this particular ombuds diverge from an ideal type of ombuds - one that is: fair, speedy and truly independent? Please see: www.blogger.com Ombudsmans Sixtyone-percent. But surely it is the ombuds who should be being placed under the researcher's array of theoretical templates and probed by their investigational tool-kit and not just those victims who chose to fit back?
In: "The Ombudsman Enterprise + Administrative Justice" (2011) by Buck t, Kirkham R and Thompson B Ch 6 "Accountability" - we read that the ombudsman enterprise is an, "unelected institution employed to provide assurance to Parliament and the wider population as to the efficacy of Government - the interaction of these different bodies is important if the most effective form of accountability is to be achieved. The ombudsman is an institution endowed with remarkable power that itself needs to be called to account. Not only can an ombudsman fail due to error or incompetency, but an ombudsman can fail through timidity."
We believe the ombuds we came up against - the one who DJS Research described as: "arriving at decisions in an illogical manner" who didn't "routinely ask her members questions" or answer ours is ably described by the above authors. Perhaps their - error / incompetency / timidity schema could form a grid into which all ombuds can be allocated according to their proneness for: error, incompetency and timidity?
We also had some difficulty understanding Figure 3: An integrated legal consciousness model for analysing interactions between citizens and ombuds systems. (p20)
It seems that after being fitted-up by the ombuds responsible for their injustice the activist/protester is then being fitted into a grid - a grid which really doesn't seem go far in explaining the causes of that injustice in the first place. It would be interesting to know if they were indeed victims of: error / incompetency / timidity or a combination of all three?
And we are talking about ombuds injustice on an industrial scale. A production-line of injustice. With assertive ombuds all spouting ombudspeak. Much of which makes little or no sense. How can Lewis Shand Smith's "superb model of ADR" at Ombudsman Services need to be "closely and honestly looked at" if it truly were, "superb?"
Do we want empirical scholarship for empirical scholarship's sake when thousands of anonymous individuals are being mugged by largely unregulated and unaccountable ombuds? Ombuds who routinely fail Buck Kirkham and Thompson's need to be held to account?
When citing Hertogh's, "anonymous people who have lost confidence in the law" shouldn't the focus of attention be on:
* the decisions that caused those people to lose confidence?
* the individuals/ombuds who caused them to lose their confidence?
In a modern democracy worthy of its name ALL such decisions must be digitalised and put on the internet for public scrutiny. That would help to resolve the accountability and transparency deficit. A standardised form, scrutinised regularly by a combination of MPs. consumer groups and protester/activists.
We would question why in the low grid/low group individual dissent section such individuals are described as being "with the law." If you are resisting the law how can you be, "with the law?"
The idea that individuals, "Defer" to appalling ombuds decisions is also problematic. The authors claim: "Alternatively, deference may have a more positive form as individuals feel personally aggrieved, but recognise the the fundamental legitimacy of the outcome and need to defer to community values."
Why would individuals feel the need to be personally aggrieved if the outcome is legitimate? Or how can you combine feeling, "personally aggrieved" at an appalling miscarriage of justice and accept that a shockingly bad decision is, "legitimate?" Placing people somewhere on a grid comes at a cost.
The words we use to describe who we are and what we attempt to do are enormously important - it's what helps make watchers / activists / protesters: watchers / activists / protesters. The words Creutzfeldt and Gill use to describe us and what we do seem at times remote.
We agree that the, "law's hegemonic role in sustaining domination" (Morgan Kuch 2015) is in urgent need of understanding given we are now living through what one former ombudsman has called, "the Golden Age of the Ombudsman." So that these "Golden People" can be suitably regulated, held to account and perhaps even have some of the shine taken off them when imprisoned.
That would in itself require a radical understanding of the historical context in which these new Sun Gods came to flourish: a time when British capitalism dominated by a free market ideology demanded de-regulated markets and a bonfire of the regulations. A time when rigged or "captured" markets (Piketty) gave rise to rigged and captured redress. Or as one Ombudsman Services Annual Report put it - our members want to see that their money is being spent wisely - that we are adding value to their business practices. No mention of complainants' practices. Their "outcomes" certainly did add that value. It's how ombuds made redress: "Good For Business."
Huw Beynon's use of structured interview surveys in, "Working For Ford" might have been helpful in the research and on page 21 the authors admit as much. They say, "This would have allowed us to deepen our analysis of ombuds watchers legal consciousness."
But what of their political consciousness?
An examination of ombuds legal/political/economic consciousness would be timely and interesting especially given their habit of: error / incompetency and timidity.
But what about the validity of the activists' campaigns? And why isn't there a grid or continuum being devised into which ombuds and their schemes can be placed to publicly account for their: fairness, speed and independence in resolving complainants' disputes. As well as their: error / incompetency and/or timidity?
And one also for the regulators which would help explain why regulators regularly don't get it right in the first place.
The question as to why the formal justice system should cause so many to question - and some to resist it - never seems to get asked.
We are told on page 16 "They eventually dissent from the wider system of political and legal redress which they come to see as complicit in preserving an unjust status quo. Importantly, that status quo is understood by the ombuds watchers as legally sanctioned, with ombuds being a part of the legal and political system that is, in the words of one of the groups, 'corrupt by design.'"
Isn't it corrupt by design? If it wasn't wouldn't it look very different? If it actually did all the things it said on its tin we wouldn't be here would we. But we are. Surely, an analysis of its design couldn't but show it was designed - for it members benefit: to add value to their business practices? Having Gillian Fleming lower so-called financial awards "significantly" could only add to that "benefit."
One ombuds, "benefit" is another protester's, "corruption."
The Rev Lewis Shand Smith, former Chief Ombudsman and CEO at Ombudsman Services, liked to describe his, "superb model of ADR" as being, "Good For Business."
This seems to be as good a starting point as any: Good For Business. Why not deploy it as an ideal type and one to measure ADR schemes against?
This could be contrasted with a: Good For Consumers ideal type and a league table of ombuds schemes produced quarterly. Those responsible for their scheme's performance could be held to account by a panel of MPs and ombuds watchers / activists / protesters. With quarterly League Tables of ombuds performance published in the Daily Mail.
For example:
* Do they offer fee-paying members, "value for money?
* Do they add value to their members' business practices?
* Do they cut financial awards when asked to do so?
* Do they hand out illogical decisions?
Or
* Do they offer complainants speedy justice?
* Do they offer the right financial compensation?
* Do they raise financial awards when asked to do so?
* Do they allow the complainant the right to challenge those decisions?
Is the ombuds:
* prone to error
* prone to incompetency
* prone to timidity
or a combination of the above.
We should like to suggest academics use Ombudsman Services:Property as a case study. How did it go from being a superb model of ADR to bust in less than a decade? Where was government whilst this happened? Where were the MPs? You are welcome to use the information gathered at www.blogger.com Ombudsmans Sixtyone percent to help you. Ombudsman Services have removed the data detailing the calamity that was its Property "brand" from the historical record. OS:Property could become an "ideal type." The ultimate ombuds case study of the early 21st century. And where did the Ombudsman Services executives attribute blame for its spectacular failure? The system of course. Its new Chair, Tim Clement Jones even blamed complainants for complaining when his "best efforts" were seen by many of them as simply not being good enough.
No mention of the individuals it failed or the "detriment" those nameless but numbered individuals suffered.
We are - and remain: Case 510458 of The Rev Lewis Shand Smith's workload.
One recipient of an OS:Property decision, "Not arrived at in a logical manner" was Julia:
"We chuckle when we read the reply from our surveyor to our complaint - please refer to the Surveyors Ombudsman!! That was a no risk strategy for them!
It has been eye-wateringly ludicrous! We have suffered financial loss and severe health issues.
I really do want to tell my story if for nothing more than to help other people"
Isn't now time for academic scholarship/research to cease being a "no risk strategy?" Isn't it time it came down off the fence and helped the victims? It's as if The Good Samaritan is being rebuked for failing to administer open-heart surgery or a brain scan in the case of the OS:P ombuds.
What is needed is access to the 84% of dissatisfied complainants at Ombudsman Services:Property and a structured survey of their own experience. Something that DJS Research were doing until their contract was mysteriously terminated. We asked the OFT about this. We were told by the HEAD OF ERC@OFT Our ref EPIC/ENQ/E/138617 - "I have investigated this matter and understand that OS:P has confirmed that the new company will ask the same questions as those used on previous surveys, with the addition of some new questions about the OS:P website."
This simply didn't happen. Why? Again Buck, Kirkham and Thompson's Ch 6 is important. Who is holding this powerful institution to account? Just ombuds activists and Buck, Kirkham and Thompson it would seem
Q. Why replace DJS Research with another research firm that was going to ask the same questions?
When this didn't happen - when the same questions weren't being asked - and when there were NO Property CSRs an innocent bystander couldn't help but come to the conclusion that the executives were intent on breaking the downward spiral of their mishandling of consumer complaints.
We wrote to and phoned Ombudsman Services and asked for the contact details of all those property complainants who had unaccountably NOT been asked the same questions but were told that the information we sought was covered by the Data Protection Act. It seems that the law really does protect those who least deserve it.
The Chair of Ombudsman Services at that time, Dame Janet Finch, a Professor of Sociology, seemed to have a phobia for statistics and questions concerning her Property brand. We would like to recommend that Chairs of ombuds schemes should be the subject of far greater scrutiny too.
Huw Beynon gave us a lasting statement of workers' experiences when on the production line a Ford Motor Co. He didn't sit on the academic fence.
The mass production of appalling decisions by legal and quasi-legal ombudsman schemes has all but succeeded in doing the opposite - the victims' experiences are deliberately not being recorded. Their stories aren't being told. Silence is the order of the day.
Apart, that is, from the efforts of ombuds watchers / activists / protesters. And Julia.
And where ARE the politicians and academics in all of this? Our appeals to Labour's Yvonne Fovargue and Helena Kenndy's committees fell on deaf ears. Three times we contacted all Labour MPs with an email and twice all members of The House of Lords.
Baroness Stowell was the only respondent. It seems that no matter what their stated political orientation is when it comes to holding ombuds to account they all stampede for the exit. Career ending issues? ombuds and anything to do with ombuds.
We found it difficult to fully understand the second type of Deference mentioned by Creutzfeldt and Gill- "Alternatively, deference may have a more positive form, as individuals feel personally aggrieved, but recognise the fundamental legitimacy of the outcome and need to defer to community values."
Again, why would individuals feel personally aggrieved if the outcome of their case was fundamentally legitimate?
On p.20 we're told, "In terms of resistance, this may initially take the form of individual dissent, where legal appeals and other strategies (such as writing to MPs or newspapers) are designed to address a perceived injustice." Why is the injustice, "perceived?" It's either an injustice or it isn't. Our appeals for help to our MPs - one Conservative, Oliver Colvile, and one Labour, Luke pollard - are case studies in themselves and show the enormity of the problem. When a Labour Party MP is less helpful than his Conservative counterpart there really is a mountain to climb.
Which is why Eyal Weizman and Fazal Sheikh's The Conflict Shoreline and what happened at al-Araqib a historic Bedouin site is so inspirational. Bulldozed more than ninety times the several dozen residents still return and - with help from Israeli activists - rebuild their homes and their lives.
Taking on the ombuds establishment is a walk in the park in comparison. Although some help wouldn't go amiss.
On page 24 there's a: Critique of the Ombuds' Inquisitorial + Bureaucratic Justice. They say, "The inability to satisfy complainants they have received a fair hearing is important to the watchers' critique who argue (in line with procedural justice theory - Lind+ Tyler 1988) that it should be possible to satisfy the parties even when the outcome is unfavourable: If the SPSO delivers a quality report, both sides should be satisfied).
If it's a quality report it will be unfavourable to one side. Why at Ombudsman Services:Property was it 84% of the times unfavourable to those bringing the complaint? Why was the ombuds' decision 84% of the time in favour of fee-paying members? This is akin to complainants rolling the dice 100 times and getting 1: 84 times. Yes the dice IS loaded.
It would seem that the ombuds was insufficiently inquisitorial on a great many occasions. You could be forgiven for believing it was the fee-paying member who was complaining about their client such was their rate of success.
Inquisitorial? We were told by the Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsman Gillian Fleming she, "Did not routinely ask questions." So we asked her - how can you conduct an investigation of a complaint if you don't answer questions?
She didn't answer the question.
We asked her for a face-to-face meeting (as was our human right). This was refused on the grounds that had she thought such a meeting necessary she would have ordered one at the time. She might have, "arrived at decisions in an illogical manner" (DJS Research) but wasn't illogical enough to risk a face-to-face meeting with us. We have pages of this sort of stuff.
One wonders what one is supposed to do in a democracy in which ombudsman don't ask or answer questions, MPs most certainly don't and the media doesn't either. Nor it seems do academics. Mortgages and careers are at stake. What Is To Be Done?
We're too old and peace-loving for the armed struggle.
Our final area of disagreement is with what is found on page 32. Creutzfeldt and Gill say that the second position adopted by some ombuds activists is, "interestingly naïve" and "given the cynicism which the watchers express about the judicial system and its involvement with maintaining the status quo." Yet on page 28 we're told by (LW- a watcher / activist / protester) that, "The political establishment is ... very reluctant to call into question the integrity of the institution."
Just ask Yvonne Fovargue and Helena Kennedy and ALL Labour Party members / members of the House of Lords. Please do. We have but without success.
Rather than falling into the trap of being, "interestingly naïve" the authors opt for option 1. An informal, people-friendly arrangement of local committees.
Which begs the one big question - why would the hegemonists of the state/quasi-state political-economic-judicial system relinquish their power and be held to account for their corruption, cover-ups and calumny by groups of public spirited, sandal wearing vegetarians? (we include ourselves in this appropriate stereotype)
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign is seeking:
* Answers from; Vince Cable, Jo Swinson, Sajid Javid, Jonathan May, Lewis Shand Smith, Dame Janet Finch, Grant Shapps, Nick Clegg, Steven Gould, Greg Cark, Francis Maude, Gillian Fleming, Andrea Leadsom, Sir Tim Clement Jones, Clive Maxwell, Yvonne Fovargue, Helena Kennedy, Chuka Umunna.
* A public inquiry into Ombudsman Services:Property (a company formerly trading as The Surveyors Ombudsman Service or SOS) and the role of The RICS in its "effective resolution of disputes."
* Compensation for the victims of illogical Final Decisions.
* The setting up of a truly: fair, speedy and independent ADR scheme.
1) Martin Lewis: Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform. For Yvonne Fovargue's APPG.
2) Thomas Piketty: Capital i
Tuesday, 11 August 2020
The "Ombuds watchers": Collective dissent and legal protests amongst users of public services ombuds. (Creutzfeldt N + Gill C) Social and Legal Studies. "Watching The Watchers Watch Ombuds Watchers Watch Ombudsmen And Ombudswomen. A reply by The Ombudsmens61percent Campaign.
The "Ombuds watchers": Collective dissent and legal protests amongst users of public services ombuds. (Creutzfeldt N, + Gill C.) Social and Legal Studies.
"Watching The Watchers Who Watch The Ombuds Watchers Watch Ombuds*" A reply by The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign.
Dear Friend,
The speed, fairness and independence of a nation's justice system is a measure of the health its democracy.
Judging by the short reign of terror at the government approved and "monitored" Ombudsman Services:Property it is now on life-support:
"Ombuds watchers": Collective dissent and legal protests amongst users of public services ombuds. (Creutzfeldt N, + Gill C.) Social and Legal Studies.
"Watching The Watchers Who Watch The Ombuds Watchers Watch Ombuds*" A reply by The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign.
If RICS the regulator and the government monitors of the government approved Ombudsman Services:Property had done the jobs they were paid to do then there would have been no need for us to write this reply. But they didn't. And so we are.
We were inspired to respond to Creutzfeldt N+Gill C's article by: Huw Beynon's, Working For Ford / Get Up Stand Up | Playing For Change | Song Around The World (13.769.897 views) / Eyal Weizman +Fazal Sheikh: "The Conflict Shoreline, Surprise and Disappointment" / that private sector ombuds were excluded from this article / a difficulty with the terms, "Against the law" and "With the law / a disagreement with the authors over some of their conclusions and continued focus on the watchers and not the watched / a need for a rigorous understanding of ombuds and how and why they operate in the way they do and an objection to being labelled a, "watcher."
"Watcher: a person who watches television or films - Cambridge English Dictionary."
Or, "Watcher: a person who closely follows or observes someone or something - Merriam-Webster Dictionary."
The second definition is slightly less demeaning. "Watchers," if our experience is anything to go by, do a great deal more than just watch. Perhaps "activists" or "protesters" would be a far more suitable word for their hours of voluntary unpaid activism and banging of heads on doors that never seem to want to open. There is no lottery funding or charitable status available for the likes of us.
The authors seem to acknowledge this on p. 33 in their section: A Collective Approach to Gaming and the Communal Dynamics of Protest. Collective "protest" being "the means through which complainants rendered helpless could regain a voice" rather than being "shut out in the cold." "Protester" or "activist" seem far more appropriate lables to be given.
The authors begin by stating, "The article argues that legal consciousness provides an appropriate theoretical lens for studying user experiences of ombuds processes and a useful framework for understanding the ways in which people make sense of experiences, construct ideas about justice and make decisions about what action to take in response to dissatisfaction."
Is it not also a political consciousness? Isn't the whole process of being systematically denied justice by the state and its civil servants and politicians - political? Especially when the financial stakes are so high as they were at Ombudsman Services:Property.
We're not talking about a kettle that refused to boil.
The Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsman, Gillian Fleming was moved to write that the financial implications of a £25K award made against her fee-paying members could be crippling especially at a time of financial constraint. She forgot to mention the financially crippling effects of NOT making such an award to complainants at just such a time. They were, after al, the aggrieved party.
The link between fee-paying members who fund the "service" and ombuds' decisions and their pro-business ombudspeak could be easily followed until 2011 when DJS Research were suddenly replaced and the company minutes disappeared from it website. However, for future researchers of ombuds schemes such a line on enquiry is surely essential if academics are serious about understanding the political-economy of ombuds in rigged (or captured) market economies in the early 21st century. (2)
The approach adopted by Huw Beynon's in, "Working For Ford" was markedly different and succeeded in giving the production line workers he surveyed a sense of worth and dignity. They were able to forge a collective response something that we accept is denied to complainants.
Perhaps a buddy/advocacy network needs to be established so that already stressed complainants have somebody (or body) to help through their "customer journey?"
The workers at Fords responses to the situation they'd been placed in and how they sought to assert control over a work load imposed by an assertive management are - explained.
The "ombuds" in Creutzfeldt +Gills' paper remain shadowy figures. The starring actors never set foot on the stage.
Many people who turn to these "ombuds" - a wide range of individuals all with varying skills (some with very few) - but all sharing that same ridiculous name - are often desperate and vulnerable people. Their experiences of the Byzantine / Kafkaesque / mind-numbingly idiotic processes and ombudspeople they come up against in their hours of greatest need can be - and often are -traumatic. Especially so when handed an eye-wateringly ludicrous decision for all their trouble. And no hope of appeal.
The "Final Decision." It sounds eerily like something out of Germany between the two world wars especially when The Rev Lewis Shand Smith, CEO and Chief Ombudsman kept referring to the people he was sitting in judgement on as: a stock of work. Each given a number and then summarily dispatched.
There is no in-depth analysis of what led ombuds watchers / activists / protesters to fight back. No Weberian "ideal-type" ombuds or Gold Standard as Martin Lewis (1) erroneously insists upon from which named ombus all-too regularly diverge or what led to that divergence. And which caused some to fight back.
With Huw Beynon you knew why the good guys were good and why the bad guys were bad. The workers were most certainly going to stand up for their rights. When we were promised by Jonathan May of the then OFT a "speedy" fair" and "independent" "investigation" of our complaint by Gillian Fleming the then property ombudsman At Ombudsman Services:Property that is what we expected.
When we got the opposite we too decided to stand up for our rights. How did this particular ombuds diverge from an ideal type of ombuds - one that is: fair, speedy and truly independent? Please see: www.blogger.com Ombudsmans Sixtyone-percent. But surely it is the ombuds who should be being placed under the researcher's array of theoretical templates and probed by their investigational tool-kit and not just those victims who chose to fit back?
In: "The Ombudsman Enterprise + Administrative Justice" (2011) by Buck t, Kirkham R and Thompson B Ch 6 "Accountability" - we read that the ombudsman enterprise is an, "unelected institution employed to provide assurance to Parliament and the wider population as to the efficacy of Government - the interaction of these different bodies is important if the most effective form of accountability is to be achieved. The ombudsman is an institution endowed with remarkable power that itself needs to be called to account. Not only can an ombudsman fail due to error or incompetency, but an ombudsman can fail through timidity."
We believe the ombuds we came up against - the one who DJS Research described as: "arriving at decisions in an illogical manner" who didn't "routinely ask her members questions" or answer ours is ably described by the above authors. Perhaps their - error / incompetency / timidity schema could form a grid into which all ombuds can be allocated according to their proneness for: error, incompetency and timidity?
We also had some difficulty understanding Figure 3: An integrated legal consciousness model for analysing interactions between citizens and ombuds systems. (p20)
It seems that after being fitted-up by the ombuds responsible for their injustice the activist/protester is then being fitted into a grid - a grid which really doesn't seem go far in explaining the causes of that injustice in the first place. It would be interesting to know if they were indeed victims of: error / incompetency / timidity or a combination of all three?
And we are talking about ombuds injustice on an industrial scale. A production-line of injustice. With assertive ombuds all spouting ombudspeak. Much of which makes little or no sense. How can Lewis Shand Smith's "superb model of ADR" at Ombudsman Services need to be "closely and honestly looked at" if it truly were, "superb?"
Do we want empirical scholarship for empirical scholarship's sake when thousands of anonymous individuals are being mugged by largely unregulated and unaccountable ombuds? Ombuds who routinely fail Buck Kirkham and Thompson's need to be held to account?
When citing Hertogh's, "anonymous people who have lost confidence in the law" shouldn't the focus of attention be on:
* the decisions that caused those people to lose confidence?
* the individuals/ombuds who caused them to lose their confidence?
In a modern democracy worthy of its name ALL such decisions must be digitalised and put on the internet for public scrutiny. That would help to resolve the accountability and transparency deficit. A standardised form, scrutinised regularly by a combination of MPs. consumer groups and protester/activists.
We would question why in the low grid/low group individual dissent section such individuals are described as being "with the law." If you are resisting the law how can you be, "with the law?"
The idea that individuals, "Defer" to appalling ombuds decisions is also problematic. The authors claim: "Alternatively, deference may have a more positive form as individuals feel personally aggrieved, but recognise the the fundamental legitimacy of the outcome and need to defer to community values."
Why would individuals feel the need to be personally aggrieved if the outcome is legitimate? Or how can you combine feeling, "personally aggrieved" at an appalling miscarriage of justice and accept that a shockingly bad decision is, "legitimate?" Placing people somewhere on a grid comes at a cost.
The words we use to describe who we are and what we attempt to do are enormously important - it's what helps make watchers / activists / protesters: watchers / activists / protesters. The words Creutzfeldt and Gill use to describe us and what we do seem at times remote.
We agree that the, "law's hegemonic role in sustaining domination" (Morgan Kuch 2015) is in urgent need of understanding given we are now living through what one former ombudsman has called, "the Golden Age of the Ombudsman." So that these "Golden People" can be suitably regulated, held to account and perhaps even have some of the shine taken off them when imprisoned.
That would in itself require a radical understanding of the historical context in which these new Sun Gods came to flourish: a time when British capitalism dominated by a free market ideology demanded de-regulated markets and a bonfire of the regulations. A time when rigged or "captured" markets (Piketty) gave rise to rigged and captured redress. Or as one Ombudsman Services Annual Report put it - our members want to see that their money is being spent wisely - that we are adding value to their business practices. No mention of complainants' practices. Their "outcomes" certainly did add that value. It's how ombuds made redress: "Good For Business."
Huw Beynon's use of structured interview surveys in, "Working For Ford" might have been helpful in the research and on page 21 the authors admit as much. They say, "This would have allowed us to deepen our analysis of ombuds watchers legal consciousness."
But what of their political consciousness?
An examination of ombuds legal/political/economic consciousness would be timely and interesting especially given their habit of: error / incompetency and timidity.
But what about the validity of the activists' campaigns? And why isn't there a grid or continuum being devised into which ombuds and their schemes can be placed to publicly account for their: fairness, speed and independence in resolving complainants' disputes. As well as their: error / incompetency and/or timidity?
And one also for the regulators which would help explain why regulators regularly don't get it right in the first place.
The question as to why the formal justice system should cause so many to question - and some to resist it - never seems to get asked.
We are told on page 16 "They eventually dissent from the wider system of political and legal redress which they come to see as complicit in preserving an unjust status quo. Importantly, that status quo is understood by the ombuds watchers as legally sanctioned, with ombuds being a part of the legal and political system that is, in the words of one of the groups, 'corrupt by design.'"
Isn't it corrupt by design? If it wasn't wouldn't it look very different? If it actually did all the things it said on its tin we wouldn't be here would we. But we are.
Surely, an analysis of its design couldn't but show it was designed - for it members benefit: to add value to their business practices? Having Gillian Fleming lower so-called financial awards "significantly" could only add to that "benefit."
One ombuds, "benefit" is another protester's, "corruption."
The Rev Lewis Shand Smith, former Chief Ombudsman and CEO at Ombudsman Services, liked to describe his, "superb model of ADR" as being, "Good For Business."
This seems to be as good a starting point as any: Good For Business. Why not deploy it as an ideal type and one to measure ADR schemes against?
This could be contrasted with a: Good For Consumers ideal type and a league table of ombuds schemes produced quarterly. Those responsible for their scheme's performance could be held to account by a panel of MPs and ombuds watchers / activists / protesters. With quarterly League Tables of ombuds performance published in the Daily Mail.
For example:
* Do they offer fee-paying members, "value for money?
* Do they add value to their members' business practices?
* Do they cut financial awards when asked to do so?
* Do they hand out illogical decisions?
Or
* Do they offer complainants speedy justice?
* Do they offer the right financial compensation?
* Do they raise financial awards when asked to do so?
* Do they allow the complainant the right to challenge those decisions?
Is the ombuds:
* prone to error
* prone to incompetency
* prone to timidity
or a combination of the above.
We should like to suggest academics use Ombudsman Services:Property as a case study. How did it go from being a superb model of ADR to bust in less than a decade? Where was government whilst this happened? Where were the MPs? You are welcome to use the information gathered at www.blogger.com Ombudsmans Sixtyone percent to help you. Ombudsman Services have removed the data detailing the calamity that was its Property "brand" from the historical record. OS:Property could become an "ideal type." The ultimate ombuds case study of the early 21st century.
And where did the Ombudsman Services executives attribute blame for its spectacular failure? The system of course. Its new Chair, Tim Clement Jones even blamed complainants for complaining when his "best efforts" were seen by many of them as simply not being good enough.
No mention of the individuals it failed or the "detriment" those nameless but numbered individuals suffered.
We are - and remain: Case 510458 of The Rev Lewis Shand Smith's workload.
One recipient of an OS:Property decision, "Not arrived at in a logical manner" was Julia:
"We chuckle when we read the reply from our surveyor to our complaint - please refer to the Surveyors Ombudsman!! That was a no risk strategy for them!
It has been eye-wateringly ludicrous! We have suffered financial loss and severe health issues.
I really do want to tell my story if for nothing more than to help other people"
Isn't now time for academic scholarship/research to cease being a "no risk strategy?" Isn't it time it came down off the fence and helped the victims? It's as if The Good Samaritan is being rebuked for failing to administer open-heart surgery or a brain scan in the case of the OS:P ombuds.
What is needed is access to the 84% of dissatisfied complainants at Ombudsman Services:Property and a structured survey of their own experience. Something that DJS Research were doing until their contract was mysteriously terminated. We asked the OFT about this. We were told by the HEAD OF ERC@OFT Our ref EPIC/ENQ/E/138617 - "I have investigated this matter and understand that OS:P has confirmed that the new company will ask the same questions as those used on previous surveys, with the addition of some new questions about the OS:P website."
This simply didn't happen. Why? Again Buck, Kirkham and Thompson's Ch 6 is important. Who is holding this powerful institution to account? Just ombuds activists and Buck, Kirkham and Thompson it would seem
Q. Why replace DJS Research with another research firm that was going to ask the same questions?
When this didn't happen - when the same questions weren't being asked - and when there were NO Property CSRs an innocent bystander couldn't help but come to the conclusion that the executives were intent on breaking the downward spiral of their mishandling of consumer complaints.
We wrote to and phoned Ombudsman Services and asked for the contact details of all those property complainants who had unaccountably NOT been asked the same questions but were told that the information we sought was covered by the Data Protection Act. It seems that the law really does protect those who least deserve it.
The Chair of Ombudsman Services at that time, Dame Janet Finch, a Professor of Sociology, seemed to have a phobia for statistics and questions concerning her Property brand. We would like to recommend that Chairs of ombuds schemes should be the subject of far greater scrutiny too.
Huw Beynon gave us a lasting statement of workers' experiences when on the production line a Ford Motor Co. He didn't sit on the academic fence.
The mass production of appalling decisions by legal and quasi-legal ombudsman schemes has all but succeeded in doing the opposite - the victims' experiences are deliberately not being recorded. Their stories aren't being told. Silence is the order of the day.
Apart, that is, from the efforts of ombuds watchers / activists / protesters. And Julia.
And where ARE the politicians and academics in all of this? Our appeals to Labour's Yvonne Fovargue and Helena Kenndy's committees fell on deaf ears. Three times we contacted all Labour MPs with an email and twice all members of The House of Lords.
Baroness Stowell was the only respondent. It seems that no matter what their stated political orientation is when it comes to holding ombuds to account they all stampede for the exit. Career ending issues? ombuds and anything to do with ombuds.
We found it difficult to fully understand the second type of Deference mentioned by Creutzfeldt and Gill- "Alternatively, deference may have a more positive form, as individuals feel personally aggrieved, but recognise the fundamental legitimacy of the outcome and need to defer to community values."
Again, why would individuals feel personally aggrieved if the outcome of their case was fundamentally legitimate?
On p.20 we're told, "In terms of resistance, this may initially take the form of individual dissent, where legal appeals and other strategies (such as writing to MPs or newspapers) are designed to address a perceived injustice."
Why is the injustice, "perceived?" It's either an injustice or it isn't.
Our appeals for help to our MPs - one Conservative, Oliver Colvile, and one Labour, Luke pollard - are case studies in themselves and show the enormity of the problem. When a Labour Party MP is less helpful than his Conservative counterpart there really is a mountain to climb.
Which is why Eyal Weizman and Fazal Sheikh's The Conflict Shoreline and what happened at al-Araqib a historic Bedouin site is so inspirational. Bulldozed more than ninety times the several dozen residents still return and - with help from Israeli activists - rebuild their homes and their lives.
Taking on the ombuds establishment is a walk in the park in comparison. Although some help wouldn't go amiss.
On page 24 there's a: Critique of the Ombuds' Inquisitorial + Bureaucratic Justice. They say, "The inability to satisfy complainants they have received a fair hearing is important to the watchers' critique who argue (in line with procedural justice theory - Lind+ Tyler 1988) that it should be possible to satisfy the parties even when the outcome is unfavourable: If the SPSO delivers a quality report, both sides should be satisfied).
If it's a quality report it will be unfavourable to one side. Why at Ombudsman Services:Property was it 84% of the times unfavourable to those bringing the complaint? Why was the ombuds' decision 84% of the time in favour of fee-paying members? This is akin to complainants rolling the dice 100 times and getting 1: 84 times. Yes the dice IS loaded.
It would seem that the ombuds was insufficiently inquisitorial on a great many occasions. You could be forgiven for believing it was the fee-paying member who was complaining about their client such was their rate of success.
Inquisitorial? We were told by the Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsman Gillian Fleming she, "Did not routinely ask questions." So we asked her - how can you conduct an investigation of a complaint if you don't answer questions?
She didn't answer the question.
We asked her for a face-to-face meeting (as was our human right). This was refused on the grounds that had she thought such a meeting necessary she would have ordered one at the time. She might have, "arrived at decisions in an illogical manner" (DJS Research) but wasn't illogical enough to risk a face-to-face meeting with us. We have pages of this sort of stuff.
One wonders what one is supposed to do in a democracy in which ombudsman don't ask or answer questions, MPs most certainly don't and the media doesn't either. Nor it seems do academics. Mortgages and careers are at stake. What Is To Be Done?
We're too old and peace-loving for the armed struggle.
Our final area of disagreement is with what is found on page 32. Creutzfeldt and Gill say that the second position adopted by some ombuds activists is, "interestingly naïve" and, "given the cynicism which the watchers express about the judicial system and its involvement with maintaining the status quo." Yet on page 28 we're told by (LW- a watcher / activist / protester) that, "The political establishment is ... very reluctant to call into question the integrity of the institution."
Just ask Yvonne Fovargue and Helena Kennedy and ALL Labour Party members / members of the House of Lords. Please do. We have but without success.
Rather than falling into the trap of being, "interestingly naïve" the authors opt for option 1. An informal, people-friendly arrangement of local committees.
Which begs the one big question - why would the hegemonists of the state/quasi-state political-economic-judicial system relinquish their power and be held to account for their corruption, cover-ups and calumny by groups of public spirited, sandal wearing vegetarians? (we include ourselves in this appropriate stereotype)
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign is seeking:
* Answers from; Vince Cable, Jo Swinson, Sajid Javid, Jonathan May, Lewis Shand Smith, Dame Janet Finch, Grant Shapps, Nick Clegg, Steven Gould, Greg Cark, Francis Maude, Gillian Fleming, Andrea Leadsom, Sir Tim Clement Jones, Clive Maxwell, Yvonne Fovargue, Helena Kennedy, Chuka Umunna.
* A public inquiry into Ombudsman Services:Property (a company formerly trading as The Surveyors Ombudsman Service or SOS) and the role of The RICS in its "effective resolution of disputes."
* Compensation for the victims of illogical Final Decisions.
* The setting up of a truly: fair, speedy and independent ADR scheme.
1) Martin Lewis: Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform. For Yvonne Fovargue's APPG.
2) Thomas Piketty: Capital in the 21st Century.
Thursday, 6 August 2020
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INTRODUCTION
We're told that:
"In an ideal world consumers would not experience problems with firms or other organisations they interact with. But when something does go wrong, consumers need to be adequately protected. It is always better if consumers and businesses can resolve problems between themselves, but if this has not worked, consumers need a route to seek a remedy. If found in favour of the consumer, that could be monetary redress, an apology or a practical solution."
The report tells us that the best performing ombudsman service is the Financial Ombudsman Service. It doesn't tells us who the worst is or why Ombudsman Services:Property went from a 61% consumer dissatisfaction rate to 84% when (mis)handling high-cost consumer complaints.
The report doesn't record the dramatic lowering of so-called "financial awards" by the property ombudsman - a drop from £1150.75p to £50 - and it crucially doesn't offer an explanation for it. Perhaps the researchers didn't read the company's minutes or analyse the Customer Satisfaction Reports as carefully as they should have.
The report fails to mention that Ombudsman Services:Property was once more accurately called The Surveyors Ombudsman Service (SOS) - a service for surveyors paid for by the members' fees. How this satisfies claims to independence and impartiality isn't explained.
The steady year on year increase of dissatisfied clients being despatched to their surveyor's ombudsman isn't mentioned let alone explained.
Nor is the reason for that "despatching" addressed: Surveyors' Reports + Evaluations.
There was a clear financial incentive in RICS unregulated / self-regulating surveyors NOT resolving their disputes with their clients - they knew that their ombudsman was, "arriving at decisions in an illogical manner" (DJS Research: Customer satisfaction Report) and lowering financial awards dramatically.
If Martin Lewis didn't know this at the time he did soon afterwards because we sent this to him AND Yvonne Fovargue of the APPG.
While consumers can go to court, this is expensive, time-consuming and can be overwhelming. It is often not a realistic option. This is particularly the case when the problem is with a relatively low-cost product or service, as the costs would vastly outweigh any potential benefits. Against this backdrop, a system of Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) has developed as an alternative to going to court. Unlike courts, ADR providers can come to a decision based on fairness, as well as the law.
ADR providers can come to a decision based on "fairness" but the mostly don't and certainly not at Ombudsman Services:Property - even MSE's own data tells them this. But for reason they avoided explaining it.
ADR encompasses a variety of different bodies that deal with complaints between individuals and organisations. Some ADR providers call themselves ‘ombudsmen’ – and even within this group there is diversity of powers, status in law, and consumer outcomes.
This report reviews the landscape of ombudsmen in the UK, seeking to provide a working understanding of: • how ombudsmen fit into the bigger ADR picture • the forms ombudsmen take • the work ombudsmen do • the powers ombudsmen have.
Like all empire builders ombudsmen have occupied the landscape accrued enormous powers and to all intents and purposes avoided being held to account - especially by Martin Lewis and Yvonne Fovargue and her APPG.
In a key part of its research, MoneySavingExpert.com conducted an online survey of consumer experiences of ombudsmen. The results provided both a detailed and a high-level view of consumers’ perceptions and experiences. The findings show there is a mixed experience of ombudsmen, but on balance the best performing ombudsman in our survey is the Financial Ombudsman Service, particularly when taking into account the consumer perception of its outcomes being put into action.
But on one of the worst performing ombudsmen in their survey - the Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsmen - they are silent.
Sadly for the consumer, Martin Lewis - rather taking into account his evidence and amending his report accordingly - has chosen to "stand by it."
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"Methodology
A combination of qualitative and quantitative research methods were used:
• Desk research, including a review of various reports about ombudsmen in recent years, and information from ombudsmen’s websites."
There is no appendix.
You do not list the reports you studied. For instance given the standout statistic on page 60 - 84% "unfairness" rate of property complainants - did you thoroughly examine DJS Research's Customer Satisfaction Reports.
These reports offer a remarkable insight into the shambolic nature of what the OFT had assured consumers would be a "fair," "speedy" and "totally independent" investigation of a consumer's often complex complaint.
Did you examine the company's minutes?
The OFT who approved and monitored this scheme on behalf of the taxpayer say that there is no requirement for the scheme to publish the minutes of its meetings.
How does this sit with the requirement for such schemes to be accountable? How does it meet the requirements of the EU Directive on ADR?
Did you scrutinise that report? If so you would have seen that this scheme would have fallen short of what was required.
There is also no mention of the Ombudsman Associations' requirements for membership - notably its primary role: to investigate maladministration.
How did the Chief Ombudsman, Lewis Shand Smith, explain his scheme's maladministration of consumers' complaints? Your report doesn't say.
It is also silent on the OFT's criteria and how the property ombudsman's habit of "arriving at decisions in an illogical manner" meets the requirement to proceed following the principles of natural justice in all the instances.
Had you matched this scheme's appalling performance in investigating consumers' complaints with the rules that were there to guide them then surely your report would have arrived at some very different conclusions.
But it didn't.
Would you care to comment now Martin Lewis?
"• Background discussions and on the record fact-checking with organisations mentioned in this report.
• Primary research in the form of an online survey conducted between 22 August and 11 September 2017. In total, 1,409 responses were recorded. Consumers were asked about their experiences with various ombudsmen that deal with consumer complaints.
For the reasons outlined above, the survey focuses on ombudsmen, but there was space for consumers to submit their views on other similar services if they wished. Consumers also contacted us through social media and other means to share their experiences with us.
o While surveyed, the Removals Industry Ombudsman Scheme results have not been included in any of the quantitative data because the number of respondents for this ombudsman was very low and not deemed statistically meaningful."
There are no names.
Your report doesn't say who you spoke with or what those individuals had to say.
Lewis Shand Smith, Chief Ombudsman of Ombudsman Services and Chair of the Ombudsman Association must surely have spoken about:
* the maladministration
* the property ombudsman who arrived at decisions in an illogical manner
* the dramatic fall in the level of financial award
* the investigator's inability to understand the nature of complaints
* the misrepresentation of evidence
* the erroneous conclusions
* attempts by complainants to submit further evidence
* refusal of the property ombudsman to ask her fee-paying members questions
* her failure to disclose evidence
* her failure to mediate in disputes
* why when the scheme's rules precluded it from having a RICS member as an ombudsman did it have a RICS member as an ombudsman.
Your report makes no mention of this. Why Martin Lewis do you still insist that you stand by it? How does it help protect consumers?
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Context
"In February 2017 MoneySavingExpert.com was formally asked by Richard Arkless MP, Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Consumer Protection to produce a report for the APPG on the effectiveness of ombudsmen. The Chair of the APPG is now Yvonne Fovargue MP."
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign sent Yvonne Fovargue a detailed analysis of of the MSE Report pointing out that the recommendation that the Department for BEIS and the Ombudsman Association had consistently failed to protect the consumer - neither had intervened when we complained to them about Ombudsman Services - and that as a consequence of their inaction consumers had suffered needlessly.
Labour's Yvonne Fovargue subsequently blocked us from her twitter account.
So no transparency, accountability or willingness to protect the consumer there.
"The report would provide a review of the ombudsmen landscape and useful consumer insight to inform and assist the Group’s own inquiry on the subject. This is the final report. It was presented to the APPG on 1 November 2017 by Martin Lewis OBE, founder and executive chairman of MoneySavingExpert.com"
Martin Lewis told us he stands by his report.
More accurately he appears to be hiding behind it. A report/consumer champion who fails to acknowledge criticisms and respond accordingly is hardly working to protect consumers.
Wednesday, 5 August 2020
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Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. (3) Page 5.
We agree with: Recommendation 1:
All ombudsmen need a statutory basis as a foundation
• Ombudsmen should havestatutory powers to ensure that firms are cooperative with
processes and compliant with decisions that have real legal teeth.
Recommendation 2: Oversight of ombudsmen must be boosted
• Relevant Government Departments, the Ombudsman
Association and Companies House should work to make sure that the performance of
ombudsmen is consistently higher.
We agree that the oversight of ombudsmen must be boosted but disagree with
the recommendation that the Ombudsman Association should have such a role.
The Ombudsman Association was formerly The British and Irish Ombudsman Association.
It set out its own set of rules for membership.
Page 5 should be read in conjunction with Chapter 3:
TWITTER: Replying to @O61percentC @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Chapter 3 of Sharper Teeth begins by telling us that The Ombudsman Association
is - "self-regulatory."
We'll return to the philosophy of self regulation later
when discussing Consumer Focus / The RICS / and its regulation - or almost total
lack of it - of its Members and Firms.
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB Martin's Ch 3 opens by saying that The
Ombudsman Association principles, "state that the primary role of ombudsmen must
be to handle complaints about maladministration."
Let's be clear about this - their principle aim is handle complaints about
maladministration.
But do they?
Maladministration and Whistleblowing Policies:
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
The BIOA / OA once required all participating member schemes to have a
whistleblowing policy. The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign phoned Ombudsman
Services to ask if they had one.
They didn't.
We phoned the OA but didn't get an
answer.
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Your desk research will have revealed that the CO of Ombudsman Services was
told by his board to have an "honest" look at the scheme's performance and that
the Independent Assessor had been shocked at the maladministration she had uncovered.
The CO of OS was on the board of OA.
Here we have a situation where the Chief Ombudsman of Ombudsman Services and
Board member of The Ombudsman Association - whose primary purpose is to
investigate maladministration - is investigating his own maladministration.
There was NO intervention by The OFT. NO intervention by The Ombudsman
Association and NO mention of it in Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For
Ombudsman Reform.
All talk of "fit+proper person," unimpeachable integrity and
Gold Standard governance seems faintly ridiculous when no-one is regulating the
regulators.
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
The 2011 Annual Report states" But are we delivering the excellent service to
which we aspire? This year the board has supported CO Lewis Shand Smith in taking
a close and honest look at what we are actually delivering."
Q. Martin where was the property report?
So we have: shocking maladministration, an illogical ombudsman and a Chief Ombudsman
who brags that the brand is marching on - superb - all singing and dancing when
the evidence clears says otherwise.
Q. Martin, why wasn't this in your report?
This revelation - that the Chief Ombudsman of Ombudsman Services was told he
needed to take a "close" and Honest" look at what was being delivered at the
company - needs to be linked with notions of a "fit+proper person" below and DJS
Research's Customer Satisfaction Reports.
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, you would have been aware of the Ombudsman Services:Property's
maladministration and its property ombudsman's habit of "arriving at decisions
in an illogical manner." (DJS Research)
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin the 2006 Articles of Association of OS Ltd under: Powers and Duties of
the Board state it should:
c) ensure that the CO satisfactorily administers the
affairs and conduct of the business of the service
Q. What conversation did you have about the scheme's maladministration?
Q. Why do you recommend giving these people "Sharper teeth?"
Their final report stated that the Chief Ombudsman's
Property Ombudsman at Ombudsman Services combined not arriving at decisions "in
a logical manner" with a strong complainant perception of partiality.
Partiality towards the scheme's fee-paying members.
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, you would have been aware of the Ombudsman Services:Property's
maladministration and its property ombudsman's habit of "arriving at decisions
in an illogical manner." (DJS Research)
Q. Why do you recommend giving these people "Sharper Teeth?"
Then there's the company's refusal to comply with their
Association's stipulation that ALL schemes were required to have a
Whistleblowing Policy. Fit and proper persons?
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, given that the CO of Ombudsman Services also sat on the board
The Ombudsman Association - whose principle role was to handle complaints about
maladministration - your on the record fact-check with him must have been a
difficult one.
Q. Why wasn't this in your report?
TWITTER:
Please answer the question.@O61percentC·Jul 25 Replying to
@MartinSLewis and @GMB
Under: Governance - the organisation goes on to state,
"If a scheme is to be credible, all stakeholders must have confidence in it and
in the independence and effectiveness of the office holder in the role of
investigating and resolving consumer or public service complaints."
In reality the "governance" turned out to be: The Chief Ombudsman of Ombudsman Services
investigating instances of his own company's maladministration himself.
And the Whistleblowing Policy?
TWITTER:
Please answer the question.@O61percentC·Jul 25 Replying
to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, The Ombudsman Association later removed the r
requirement for participating schemes to have a whistleblowing policy.
Employees are no longer protected.
Q. Does this not breach Article 19 of the UN Universal
Declaration of Human Rights?
TWITTER:
Replying to @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Q. Martin, how does having a CO of Ombudsman Services who was also a board member
(and chair) of The Ombudsman Association handling complaints about his own scheme's
maladministration satisfy all those requirements listed in the previous tweet?
Your report doesn't say.
Q. Are these "fit+proper persons" doing "fit+proper
things?"
If schools can be subjected to the full rigours of an Ofsted inspection
why not ombudsmen and their various nefarious schemes? The abject failure of
certain APPGs to hold certain government departments to account is a worrying
reflection of the crumbling twilight state of democracy in no-answers /
post-Brexit / post transparency and post accountability Britain.
Can we even trust Martin Lewis and his MSE empire?
Given his refusal to work with us but instead stand by his misleading and
inaccurate report the answer must sadly be - No.
TWITTER: Replying to
@MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, can you please explain to the British consumer
why you "stand by" Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform's
Recommendation 2?
• Particular focus should be paid to: the ease of
complaining; to the speed at which complaints are processed; and to the perception
of fairness among those who complain to ombudsmen.
• Ineffective ombudsmen must be stripped of the right to use the word in their title.
• There should be a form of ‘fit and proper’ approved-persons test for people in
senior roles in ombudsmen.
The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy could
approve such persons. We are strongly opposed to this recommendation.
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign supports Recommendation3:
Recommendation 3: The 8-week rule should be shortened and needs vital exceptions
• Unless a deadlock letter is received, consumers generally need to wait 8 weeks
before using an ombudsman (but it can be more).
• If the complaint is about debt
issues, payday loans, credit brokers or black marks on credit files, then
waiting 8 weeks could leave consumers in crisis.
• The 8-week rule was created
in a non-digital age. But in this digital age with instant credit scoring and
decisions, 8 weeks is simply too long. That time should be reduced to somewhere
between 2-4 weeks – as a blanket rule across all ombudsmen.
• There should also be exceptions so people who are in crisis due to an unresolved
complaint can escalate to an ombudsman sooner
Please answer the question.@O61percentC·Jul 25
Replying to @O61percentC @MartinSLewis and @GMB
Martin, why wasn't the requirement for ALL ombudsman schemes to have a whistleblowing
policy in your list of recommendations?
Given the self-regulation of maladministration by those
at Ombudsman Services and The Ombudsman Association why was your report silent
on this matter?
RECOMMENDATION 4: ALL OMBUDSMAN SCHEMES MUST HAVE A
WHISTLEBLOWING POLICY.
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. An Analysis By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (4) Page 6.
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. An Analysis By The Ombudsmans61percent campaign (4) Page 6.
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign believes that whoever operates the new scheme(s) needs to be:
* A fit and very proper person.
* Have statutory powers.
* Be transparent and accountable in all they do.
* Ensure Whistleblowing Policies are effective.
* Publish all decisions online.
Aspiration: Comprehensive ombudsman membership in consumer sectors In an ideal world, all companies in consumer sectors would be members of an ombudsman.
This could be delivered through a single ombudsman for all consumer complaints, with every business serving consumers being a member; or having one ombudsman per sector, combined
with a single body acting as a portal for all ombudsmen, and filtering complaints to the appropriate ombudsman behind the scenes.
NO behind the scenes - consumers need full transparency/
accountability.
However, this aspiration is far from being implemented; it would require radical, wholesale change. Until that happens, ombudsmen should be reformed to operate at a gold standard, truly
distinct from other ADR providers.
Your recommendations for monitoring this would be a
ongoing disaster for consumers. But it does raise the crucially
important issues of:
* Unimpeachable integrity in those operating the scheme(s)
* Competency.
* Trust.
* Transparency and accountability.
in what is fast becoming a twilight democracy.
Tuesday, 4 August 2020
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. An Analysis By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (2) Page 3:
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. An Analysis By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (2) Page 3:
We agree with the following:
"• On average, 53% of people who had used an ombudsman said they were put off using an ombudsman again, even a different one.
Our research also found:
• The current ombudsman landscape is complicated for consumers to navigate. In some sectors there are competing ADR schemes and in other areas there is a lack of ombudsman provision, or ombudsmen with few members.
• It can take too long to escalate a complaint to an ombudsman. The 8-week rule was created in a non-digital age, but in this digital age with instant credit-scoring and decisions, 8 weeks is
simply too long and should be reduced.
• Even when a complaint reaches the ombudsman, consumers feel their complaints are dealt with slowly.
• Currently firms are required to say what the approved ADR scheme is in their sector even if they will not work with it, thus giving false hope to consumers. This rule is a farce."
"This mixed bag of experiences with ombudsmen devalues the term, and means consumers cannot rely on them as they should be able to. While use of the word ‘ombudsman’ is restricted, we do not believe it is restricted enough."
"With the growth of ADR, ombudsmen should be regarded as the gold standard. Only those who meet that gold standard should be called ombudsmen."
We disagree:
Britain left the gold standard in 1931. What is needed is a
transparent and accountable system of democratic
accountability. The APPG on Consumer Protection chaired
by Yvonne Fovargue refused us permission to address the
group The EU Justice Sub-Committee chaired by Baroness
Kennedy did likewise.
Both committees were supposedly there to protect the
consumer. Both seemed more intent on protecting a
Chief Executive who needed to take an "honest" look
at what he was achieving.
This information was available to the public.
Why didn't MSE make use of it?
Had they done so surely their conclusions would have been
radically different and more importantly consumers would
have been afforded - protection.
"These issues are not academic – they affect real consumers with real disputes. When ombudsmen fail, consumers lose: substantial reform is urgently needed."
We beg to differ.
These issues are academic. A great deal of valuable, scholarly
work exists on the subject of ombudsmen and their schemes
and yet MSE makes no mention of it.
Steven E Aufrecht: Evaluating Ombudsman Systems 2000:
"An ombudsman's job is to investigate and evaluate others.
Ombudsmen must be subject to evaluation."
The two Parliamentary committees we approached disagree.
Trevor Bruck, Richard Kirkham and Brian Thompson: The
Ombudsman Enterprise and Administrative Justice 2011:
"The ombudsman is an institution endowed with remarkable
power and itself needs to be called to account. Not only can
an ombudsman fail due to error or incompetency, but an
ombudsman can also fail through timidity."
DJS Research's Customer Satisfaction Reports for Ombudsman
Services suggest all three were present at this particular scheme.
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. An analysis by The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (1) Page 2:
SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM - An Analysis By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (1) Page 2.
"An ombudsman’s job is to resolve complaints, effectively operating as a final referee between the complainant and the body being complained about. This is a crucial role for consumer protection.
This report shows that the Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) landscape that ombudsmen exist within is a complex maze, full of inconsistencies. Ombudsmen are not equal. Despite sharing a name, ombudsmen have different powers, and vary widely in effectiveness.
Key areas where ombudsmen differ include whether membership is compulsory, whether firms can be forced to cooperate, and what happens if companies do not comply. Much of this discrepancy comes from whether or not the ombudsman in question has some form of statutory basis. Many do not.
This uneven provision results in some consumers having positive experiences with ombudsmen, but for too many it is a frustrating waste of time. This was shown in our consumer survey results.
Respondents self-selected to take part in the survey, so it is to be expected that the results would be a little more negative than in a non-self-selecting poll (as people who have a complaint to make were more likely to participate). Despite this, the results were stark:
• Our survey identified serious issues with firms not cooperating with ombudsmen and complying with their decisions (although ombudsmen gave a different view). Consumer responses indicated that the Financial Ombudsman Service’s decisions are most likely to
actually be put into action.
• The perception of impartiality was called into question by our survey, which found that the majority – 60% – thought the ombudsman was biased against them; 8% thought the
ombudsman was biased towards them; and only 31% said the ombudsman was neutral."
We agree with MSE that ombudsman "impartiality" is a crucial problem. But it is something the report does not examine or explain. In their second Customer Satisfaction Report for Ombudsman Services, DJS Research reported that 61% thought the ombudsman's decision went against them. Hence - The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign. This figure rose to 84% (as recorded on page 60 of this report). Again, this startling statistic is left unexplained.
"• For only one ombudsman surveyed did the majority of respondents say that the decisionwas fair; for all others, more than 50% of their users said that the decision was unfair."
ISSUES:
* Ombudsman as referee. Many referees simply aren't up to the job. This report simply avoids examining the reasons why ombudsmen are "unfair."
* Who ARE ombudsmen accountable to and why are they NOT being held to account for their "unfairness?"
MARTIN LEWIS - SHARPER TEETH: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. Questions raised by the Report's conclusions/Recommendations. Pt 4 (96)
MARTIN LEWIS - SHARPER: THE CONSUMER NEED FOR OMBUDSMAN REFORM. Questions raised about the Report's Conclusions/Recommendations. Pt 4 (96)
Martin you say, "There are too many ombudsmen with too few powers."
Q. Would you give a CO who needed to take an "honest" look at what he was actually achieving MORE power?
Q. Or a property ombudsman who arrived at decisions in an illogical manner - more power?
2. Martin, you say that substantial reform is necessary so that consumers can have the confidence to go to an ombudsman and be sure of "a fair hearing."
Yet your report doesn't clearly say why that isn't so at present.
It glosses over DJS Research's CSRs for Ombudsman Services.
3. Martin, if you had analysed DJS Research's CSRs more carefully wouldn't you have arrived at a far different set of conclusions/recommendations?
The CO and property ombudsman at OS didn't need MORE powers - they needed to investigate consumer complaints fairly and diligently.
4. Martin, despite evidence to the contrary you say, "We like ombudsmen. We think they're a good thing."
Q. Is an Ombudsman Services:Property ombudsman who "arrives at decisions in an illogical manner" a good thing?
Q. What is there to like about such a person?
5. Then there's the matter of the instances of maladministration at Ombudsman Services.
Q. Would you seriously give such people MORE powers?
Q. What is there to like about such people and why are they a good thing?
6. You say "...based on the evidence used in this report, we take the opportunity to make policy recommendations that the APPG may wish to consider."
Based on the evidence we have provided would you with would you like to amend those recommendations and if not why not?
7. Money Saving Expert must surely get its expertise from
a careful appraisal of the very best data available.
The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign has attempted to provide you with that.
We have provided you with evidence and criticised; The OFT, The RICS, The OA, The BEIS and OS.
8. Yet you still insist that you stand by your report and its conclusions and recommendations to the APPG on Consumer Protection.
Should your report's recommendations be put into effect we believe consumers would even worse off in terms of protection than they are now.
9. When all has been said and done it comes down to one simple rule: consumers need to be protected from the cowboys - and not the cowboys from their consumers.
We believe that without a shadow of a doubt that the cowboys have the sheriff riding with them.
Riding roughshod.
10. The scandal is not that ombudsmen don't have enough power but that the power they do have has been abused.
The scandal is that governments - and now MSE it would seem - have known about this endemic injustice and still refuse to do anything about it.
Things will get worse.
Monday, 3 August 2020
Sharper Teeth: The Customer Need For Ombudsman Reform a Further Update By The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (94): DJS Research Set The Gold Standard in Research/Customer satisfaction Reports.
Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform a further update by The Ombudsmans61percent Campaign (94):
DJS Research Set The Gold Standard In Independent Research/Customer Satisfaction Reports.
We attempted to raise the following issues with Martin Lewis on twitter but without success:
A) THE DEPARTMENT OF BEIS AND THE OMBUDSMAN ASSOCIATION - SETTING GOLD STANDARDS?
1) Martin Lewis, should: Sharper Teeth: The Consumer Need For Ombudsman Reform be implemented - especially the recommendations that the BEIS and OA set the gold standard in what is to be an ombudsman then consumers will be at an even greater disadvantage than they are today.
Both ignored us.
2) The BEIS was the BIS back in the day when our campaign - The ombudsmans61percent Campaign began.
We tried raising the issue of an ombudsman who "arrived at decisions in an illogical manner" (DJS Research) with:
Vince Cable, Joe Swinson, Sajid Javid and Greg Clark.
All of them ignored us.
3) Had Vince Cable, Joe Swinson, Sajid Javid and Greg Clark acted upon our complaint consumers would have been stopped form taking their complaints to an ombudsman who, "arrived at decisions in an illogical manner."
But they didn't act.
Consumer dissatisfaction levels thus rose from 61% to 85%.
PLEASE NOTE: we've fact-checked your table on p60 and think the "unfairness" level is 84%. The table is hard to read.
4) On page 8 of the report it states you did "desk research" and "on the record fact checking."
DJS Research conducted independent CSRs for Ombudsman Services (2008-11).
Their reports are dynamite
They stated that the property ombudsman "arrived at decisions in an illogical manner."
5) When you did your "on the record fact checking" with the CEO and Chief ombudsman at Ombudsman Services what did he have to say about his property ombudsman who arriving at decisions in an "illogical manner?"
Q. Would you care to comment now?
Q. What do you to say to those complainants?
6) We contacted DJS Research to confirm that they had indeed discovered an ombudsman who was arriving at decisions "in an illogical manner."
They had
They said we could use their name in our campaign.
Q. Did you fact check this startling revelation with DJS Research and if not why not?
7) DJS Research also report that:
* investigators/ombudsman did not understand the complexity of property disputes.
When you did your "on the record fact checking" what did the CEO and Chief Ombudsman have to say to that?
When an ombudsman is confused by the complexity of disputes how can this a proper investigation of a consumer's complaint?
8) DJS Research also report that:
* investigators/ombudsman did not understand the complexity of property disputes.
Q. Martin, when you did your "on the record fact checking" what did the CEO and Chief Ombudsman have to say to that?
Is this a proper investigation of a consumer's complaint?
9) DJS Research say:
* evidence was omitted and/or misrepresented.
When you carried out your "on the record fact checking" with the CEO and Chief Ombudsman what did he have to say to that?
What do you say to consumers who suffered this terrible injustice?
10) DJS Research continue:
FURTHER REPRESENTATION - 83% had submitted further rep. 66% submitted further evidence.
Most complainants said this didn't alter the outcome.
Q. What did the CEO and Chief Ombudsman say about this when you contacted him?
11) DJS Research in what was to be their final report state at 8.24: "To be effective the SOS (later rebranded as OS) must be seen as an impartial arbitrator between parties - currently this does not seem to be the consensus of opinion."
Q. What did the CEO say to that?
12) When you desk researched Ombudsman Services minutes what response did you make to:
Minutes for Dec 2009:
"The Chief Executive noted that there had been some concern over the apparent increases in levels of award."
Q. Surely the ombudsman is independent and free to make awards?
ISSUES: Independence of Ombudsman / Integrity / Fit-and-proper-person / OFT Guidelines / Role of Regulator.
13) DJS Research have a different take on this.
They state, "OSP is different to OS Energy and OS Communications in that the financial implications of complaints are much larger as they relate to expensive purchasing decisions. This should be looked at .. the scale of financial award be increased to be more in line with financial losses incurred by the complainant as a result of the problem." (DJS Research)
Q. When you had an on the record fact check with the CEO and Chief Ombudsman what did he say to this and why did his property ombudsman instead REDUCE financial awards significantly?
14) The RICS had a Memorandum of Understanding with OS:Property its "appointed" company.
It had a Director of Regulation sitting on its appointed company's board.
Q. When you fact checked this with the OS CEO how did he justify this in terms of the ombudsman's independence?
15) The RICS monitored its appointed company for "the effective resolution of disputes."
Q. When you fact checked this with the OS CEO had did he explain a decision "not arrived at in a logical manner" as being "effective?"
Q. Effective for fee-paying members or consumers?
B) THE OFT CRITERIA FOR APPROVING OMBUDSMAN SERVICES PROPERTY:
When you did desk research you will have read the OFT's criteria for the approval of its approved and monitored ADR scheme - OS:P.
Criterion 5 states: "The ombudsman must proceed fairly and in accordance with principles of natural justice."
Q. Martin how is an illogical ombudsman able to proceed fairly?
Q. Where is the the natural justice when an ombudsman is illogical?
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